Show 472, April 30, 2022: Chef Lasheeda Perry of Queen of Flavor

Lasheeda Perry of Queen of Flavor

Lasheeda Perry, a C-CAP Alum, is a trained pastry chef and the owner of Queen of Flavor, LLC, a company that specializes in everything from revamping restaurant menus to helping a restaurant design and execute a dream dessert for a special event.”

“Lasheeda has always has a passion for the Culinary Arts, and luckily for the sweet tooth everywhere, this love has materialized into a successfully rewarding career. She received her culinary education from Johnson & Wales, and has studied abroad in Ireland, Australia and China to enhance her culinary skills.”

“Now based in Long Beach Chef Lasheeda has previously worked across America as an Executive Pastry Chef at Four Seasons Hotels and Resorts (including The Beverly Wilshire, a Four Seasons Hotel) and for Bon Appetit Management Co. at LinkedIn. She also teaches fun and entertaining pastry classes on the Food Network App.”

For the afternoon Chef Jet Tila book-signing to benefit C-CAP, Chef Lasheeda Perry creatively adapted the Coconut Sticky Rice with Mango dessert recipe from 101 Thai Dishes. The winning result was a Coconut Rice Pudding Cake with Thai Tea Ice Cream and Caramelized Peanuts.

Chef Lasheeda joins us with rolling pin in hand.

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Show 466, March 19, 2022: Show Preview with Executive Producer & Co-Host Andy Harris including Anne Marie Panoringan

Food Journalist Anne Marie Panoringan

Anne Marie Panoringan is Voice of OC’s well-informed food columnist. She reports industry news, current events and trends. The column publishes every other Friday. Anne Marie joins us in-studio to profile how two Orange County restaurants weathered Covid 19 in very different ways and also discusses her upcoming column about the burgeoning restaurant scene in Fullerton which publishes on Friday, March 25th. Anne Marie also reports on highlights from last week’s Natural Products Expo West at the Anaheim Convention Center. It’s the 2nd biggest convention held annually at the ACC. Anne Marie, in-studio, is part of this segment.

We first introduced Chef Eric Klein to the listeners of the “SoCal Restaurant Show” when he was the high-profile Executive Chef and Partner of Spago Las Vegas in the Forum Shops. Later Chef Eric transitioned with a giant promotion to Senior Vice President Culinary – Partner at Wolfgang Puck Catering based at The Dolby Theater in Hollywood. Every year for over two-decades Wolfgang Puck Catering has had the honor and great responsibility of providing all celebratory food and beverage for the prestigious Governors Ball following the Academy Awards ceremony. This year The Oscars return to the Dolby Theater on Sunday, March 27th. Talk about great expectations…Chef Eric Klein takes a brief break from his busy kitchens to join us.

Baker Arturo Enciso’s Gusto Bread is an organic panadería in Long Beach, California, specializing in pan and pan dulce made only with masa madre (natural leaven: sourdough starter).Find freshly made loaves, conchas, long breads, nixtamal, polvorones, horchata, café de olla, yerba mate, as well as delicious pantry goods (sardinas, beans), and so much more.” “Gusto Bread is a homey, creative, latinx operation, with a love for tradition and nutrition, serving and supported by their local community.”
Gusto loves putting their heart and soul into their acclaimed work. Baker Arturo has a passionate connection to bread and baking.” Arturo takes a break from his busy deck ovens and joins us.

Talley Vineyards (cool climate wines from the SLO Coast) Owner & Vintner Brian Talley is a third- generation farmer and second- generation winegrower born and raised in Arroyo Grande.  While attending UC Berkeley, where he earned degrees in History and Natural Resource Economics, he worked in a wine shop where he fell in love with wine. Brian began his career in the family business at age 12 when he started harvesting vegetables at Talley Farms.  He became General Manager of Talley Vineyards in 1991 and now serves as President of Talley Vineyards and Talley Farms.” Brian Talley is our guest to uncork all that is Talley Vineyards.

Our own Chef Andrew Gruel of the Slapfish Restaurant Group provides another timely and informative “Ask the Chef” segment where Chef Andrew responds to listeners thoughtful inquiries. Chef Andrew’s favorite charity benefit of the year is the high-profile OC Chef’s Table benefiting the Illumination Foundation. It’s set for Sunday, March 27th at the Disneyland Hotel. The long-term goal of Illumination Foundation is to end homelessness in the OC. The event last year raised over $1.3 million. Chef Andrew provides the overview.

All of this and heaping helpings of extra deliciousness on this week’s not-to-miss show!

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Show 466, March 19, 2022: Baker Arturo Enciso, Gusto Bread, Long Beach Part One

Arturo Enciso of Gusto Bread

Baker Arturo Enciso’s Gusto Bread is an organic panadería in Long Beach, California, specializing in pan and pan dulce made only with masa madre (natural leaven: sourdough starter).Find freshly made loaves, conchas, long breads, nixtamal, polvorones, horchata, café de olla, yerba mate, as well as delicious pantry goods (sardinas, beans), and so much more.”

Gusto Bread is a homey, creative, latinx operation, with a love for tradition and nutrition, serving and supported by their local community. Gusto loves putting their heart and soul into their acclaimed work. Baker Arturo has a passionate connection to bread and baking.”

Proprietor Arturo Enciso is a baker from Lebec, CA who has called Long Beach his home for over 10 years. As a self-taught baker for the last 7+ years, he’s grown his hobby into a career with his business Gusto Bread, a panadería orgánica on Retro Row in Long Beach (storefront just opened in August 2020). The bakery uses only masa madre (sourdough) for making breads and pan dulces, embracing ancient knowledge and using high-quality ingredients. He believes that good food and bread provide a beautiful way for people to connect with one another, to traditions and wisdom of the past and create community for a brighter future together.” Arturo takes a break from his busy ovens and joins us.

“Working alongside Arturo is his partner of over 10 years, Ana Belén Salatino, who you’ll find minding the shop, answering the phone and emails, and general day-to-day operations at the bakery. She is in awe of the amount of support and encouragement Gusto Bread has seen from the Long Beach community (and beyond) and knows a good part of the business’ success comes from the heartfelt passion Arturo has for baking and their shared deep commitment to the highest quality ingredients and processes.”

Gusto Bread is open five days and closed on Monday and Tuesday.

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Show 466, March 19, 2022: Baker Arturo Enciso, Gusto Bread, Long Beach Part Two

Arturo Enciso of Gusto Bread

Baker Arturo Enciso’s Gusto Bread is an organic panadería in Long Beach, California, specializing in pan and pan dulce made only with masa madre (natural leaven: sourdough starter).Find freshly made loaves, conchas, long breads, nixtamal, polvorones, horchata, café de olla, yerba mate, as well as delicious pantry goods (sardinas, beans), and so much more.”

Gusto Bread is a homey, creative, latinx operation, with a love for tradition and nutrition, serving and supported by their local community. Gusto loves putting their heart and soul into their acclaimed work. Baker Arturo has a passionate connection to bread and baking.”

Proprietor Arturo Enciso is a baker from Lebec, CA who has called Long Beach his home for over 10 years. As a self-taught baker for the last 7+ years, he’s grown his hobby into a career with his business Gusto Bread, a panadería orgánica on Retro Row in Long Beach (storefront just opened in August 2020). The bakery uses only masa madre (sourdough) for making breads and pan dulces, embracing ancient knowledge and using high-quality ingredients. He believes that good food and bread provide a beautiful way for people to connect with one another, to traditions and wisdom of the past and create community for a brighter future together.” Arturo takes a further break from his busy ovens and continues with us.

“Working alongside Arturo is his partner of over 10 years, Ana Belén Salatino, who you’ll find minding the shop, answering the phone and emails, and general day-to-day operations at the bakery. She is in awe of the amount of support and encouragement Gusto Bread has seen from the Long Beach community (and beyond) and knows a good part of the business’ success comes from the heartfelt passion Arturo has for baking and their shared deep commitment to the highest quality ingredients and processes.”

Gusto Bread is open five days and closed on Monday and Tuesday.

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March 19: Anne-Marie Panoringan, Eric Klein at the Academy Awards, Gusto Bread, Talley Vineyards

Podcasts

Segment One: Show Preview with Executive Producer & Co-Host Andy Harris including Anne Marie Panoringan
Segment Two: Anne Marie Panoringan, “Voice of OC’s” Food Columnist
Segment Three: Executive Chef Eric Klein, Senior Vice President Culinary – Partner, Wolfgang Puck Catering
Segment Four: Baker Arturo Enciso, Gusto Bread, Long Beach Part One
Segment Five: Baker Arturo Enciso, Gusto Bread, Long Beach Part Two
Segment Six: Vintner Brian Talley, President, Talley Vineyards and Talley Farms, Arroyo Grande, CA Part One
Segment Seven: Vintner Brian Talley, President, Talley Vineyards and Talley Farms, Arroyo Grande, CA Part Two
Segment Eight: Chef & Co-Host Andrew Gruel of Slapfish with “Ask the Chef”

We’re previewing the show with Executive Producer & Co-Host Andy Harris.

Anne Marie Panoringan is Voice of OC’s well-informed food columnist. She reports industry news, current events and trends. The column publishes every other Friday. Anne Marie joins us in-studio to profile how two Orange County restaurants weathered Covid 19 in very different ways and also discusses her current column about the burgeoning restaurant scene in Fullerton which published on Friday, March 18th. Anne Marie also reports on highlights from last week’s Natural Products Expo West at the Anaheim Convention Center. It’s the 2nd biggest convention held annually at the ACC.

We first introduced Chef Eric Klein to the listeners of the “SoCal Restaurant Show” when he was the high-profile Executive Chef and Partner of Spago Las Vegas in the Forum Shops. Later Chef Eric transitioned with a giant promotion to Senior Vice President Culinary – Partner at Wolfgang Puck Catering based at The Dolby Theater in Hollywood. Every year for over two-decades Wolfgang Puck Catering has had the honor and great responsibility of providing all celebratory food and beverage for the prestigious Governors Ball following the Academy Awards ceremony. This year The Oscars return to the Dolby Theater on Sunday, March 27th. Talk about great expectations…Chef Eric Klein takes a brief break from his busy kitchens to join us.

Baker Arturo Enciso’s Gusto Bread is an organic panadería in Long Beach, California, specializing in pan and pan dulce made only with masa madre (natural leaven: sourdough starter).Find freshly made loaves, conchas, long breads, nixtamal, polvorones, horchata, café de olla, yerba mate, as well as delicious pantry goods (sardinas, beans), and so much more.” Gusto Bread is a homey, creative, latinx operation, with a love for tradition and nutrition, serving and supported by their local community.

Gusto loves putting their heart and soul into their acclaimed work. Baker Arturo has a passionate connection to bread and baking.” Arturo takes a break from his busy deck ovens and joins us.

“Talley Vineyards (cool climate wines from the SLO Coast) Owner & Vintner Brian Talley is a third-generation farmer and second-generation winegrower born and raised in Arroyo Grande. While attending UC Berkeley, where he earned degrees in History and Natural Resource Economics, he worked in a wine shop called Curds and Whey where he fell in love with wine. Brian began his career in the family business at age 12 when he started harvesting vegetables at Talley Farms. He became General Manager of Talley Vineyards in 1991 and now serves as President of Talley Vineyards and Talley Farms.” Brian Talley is our guest to uncork all that is Talley Vineyards.

Our own Chef Andrew Gruel of the Slapfish Restaurant Group provides another timely and informative “Ask the Chef” segment where Chef Andrew responds to listeners thoughtful inquiries. Chef Andrew’s favorite charity benefit of the year is the high-profile OC Chef’s Table benefiting the Illumination Foundation. It’s set for Sunday, March 27th at the Disneyland Hotel. The long-term goal of Illumination Foundation is to end homelessness in the OC. The event last year raised over $1.3 million. Chef Andrew provides the overview.

All of this and heaping helpings of extra deliciousness on this week’s not-to-miss show!

Food Journalist Anne Marie Panoringan

Anne Marie Panoringan is Voice of OC’s well-informed food columnist. She reports industry news, current events and trends. The column publishes every other Friday.

Anne Marie joins us in-studio to profile how two Orange County restaurants weathered Covid 19 in very different ways and also discusses her current column (published on March 18th) about the burgeoning restaurant scene in Fullerton. Anne Marie also reports on last week’s Natural Products Expo West at the Anaheim Convention Center. It’s the 2nd biggest convention held annually at the ACC.

Eric Klein of Wolfgang Puck Catering

We first introduced Chef Eric Klein to the listeners of the “SoCal Restaurant Show” when he was the high-profile Executive Chef and Partner of Spago Las Vegas in the Forum Shops. Later Chef Eric transitioned (with a major promotion) to Senior Vice President Culinary – Partner at Wolfgang Puck Catering based at The Dolby Theater in Hollywood.

Every year for over two-decades Wolfgang Puck Catering has had the honor and great responsibility of providing all celebratory food and beverage for the prestigious Governors Ball following the Academy Awards ceremony. This year the Oscars return to the Dolby Theater in Hollywood on Sunday, March 27th.

Last year Wolfgang Puck catered the exclusive “Cocktail Party” version of the Oscars at Union Station in Downtown Los Angeles. Nibbles and beverages were served (with proper pandemic protocols) in an outside patio during the ceremony.

They are the official caterers for the newly opened Academy Museum of Motion Pictures ($484 million) at Wilshire Blvd. and Fairfax Avenue.

Chef Eric Klein takes a brief break from his busy kitchens to join us.

Arturo Enciso of Gusto Bread

Baker Arturo Enciso’s Gusto Bread is an organic panadería in Long Beach, California, specializing in pan and pan dulce made only with masa madre (natural leaven: sourdough starter).Find freshly made loaves, conchas, long breads, nixtamal, polvorones, horchata, café de olla, yerba mate, as well as delicious pantry goods (sardinas, beans), and so much more.”

Gusto Bread is a homey, creative, latinx operation, with a love for tradition and nutrition, serving and supported by their local community.

Gusto loves putting their heart and soul into their acclaimed work. Baker Arturo has a passionate connection to bread and baking.”

Proprietor Arturo Enciso is a baker from Lebec, CA who has called Long Beach his home for over 10 years. As a self-taught baker for the last 7+ years, he’s grown his hobby into a career with his business Gusto Bread, a panadería orgánica on Retro Row in Long Beach (storefront just opened in August 2020). The bakery uses only masa madre (sourdough) for making breads and pan dulces, embracing ancient knowledge and using high-quality ingredients. He believes that good food and bread provide a beautiful way for people to connect with one another, to traditions and wisdom of the past and create community for a brighter future together.” Arturo takes a break from his busy ovens and joins us.

“Working alongside Arturo is his partner of over 10 years, Ana Belén Salatino, who you’ll find minding the shop, answering the phone and emails, and general day-to-day operations at the bakery. She is in awe of the amount of support and encouragement Gusto Bread has seen from the Long Beach community (and beyond) and knows a good part of the business’ success comes from the heartfelt passion Arturo has for baking and their shared deep commitment to the highest quality ingredients and processes.”

Gusto Bread is open five days and closed on Monday and Tuesday.

Brian Talley of Talley Vineyards

Talley Vineyards (cool climate wines from the SLO Coast) Owner & Vintner Brian Talley is a third-generation farmer and second-generation winegrower born and raised in Arroyo Grande. While attending UC Berkeley, where he earned degrees in History and Natural Resource Economics, he worked in a wine shop called Curds and Whey where he fell in love with wine.”

“Brian began his career in the family business at age 12 when he started harvesting vegetables at Talley Farms. He became General Manager of Talley Vineyards in 1991 and now serves as President of Talley Vineyards and Talley Farms. Brian is recognized as a leader in the local wine industry and was cofounder of the World of Pinot Noir, has served as President of the San Luis Obispo Coast Wine Collective and been recognized by both Robert Parker and the local wine industry as a Wine Industry Person of the Year. Most recently he was a leader in the effort to establish the recently approved San Luis Obispo Coast AVA and wrote a farm to table cookbook, Our California Table, Celebrating the Seasons with the Talley Family.”

“Brian loves cooking, wine and travel as well as hiking and golf. He lives at the edge of Talley Farms with his wife Johnine. Brian Talley is our guest to uncork all that is Talley Vineyards.”

Talley Vineyards is known for their Estate Chardonnay and Pinot Noir.

“The Tally Pinot Noirs are Burgundian style with California influence: approachable minerality, delicate fruit, and refreshing energy.” Their Chardonnays are a fresh take on California Chardonnay with citrus, stone fruit, and vivacity shining through in aromas and flavors.”

Andy Harris and Andrew Gruel at Cabana 14 at the Cove at Pechanga Resort and Casino

Our own Chef Andrew Gruel of the Slapfish Restaurant Group provides another timely and informative “Ask the Chef” segment where Chef Andrew responds to listeners thoughtful inquiries.

Chef Andrew’s favorite charity benefit of the year is the OC Chef’s Table benefiting the Illumination Foundation. It’s set for Sunday, March 27th at the Disneyland Hotel. The long-term goal of Illumination Foundation is to end homelessness in the OC. The event last year raised over $1.3 million. The headlining chef is Jet Tila, the emeritus Host of the “SoCal Restaurant Show” and the author of the newly published 101 Thai Dishes You Need To Cook Before You Die. Chef Andrew provides the overview.

Podcasts

Segment One: Show Preview with Executive Producer & Co-Host Andy Harris including Anne Marie Panoringan
Segment Two: Anne Marie Panoringan, “Voice of OC’s” Food Columnist
Segment Three: Executive Chef Eric Klein, Senior Vice President Culinary – Partner, Wolfgang Puck Catering
Segment Four: Baker Arturo Enciso, Gusto Bread, Long Beach Part One
Segment Five: Baker Arturo Enciso, Gusto Bread, Long Beach Part Two
Segment Six: Vintner Brian Talley, President, Talley Vineyards and Talley Farms, Arroyo Grande, CA Part One
Segment Seven: Vintner Brian Talley, President, Talley Vineyards and Talley Farms, Arroyo Grande, CA Part Two
Segment Eight: Chef & Co-Host Andrew Gruel of Slapfish with “Ask the Chef”

Show 457, January 8, 2022: Long Beach Black Restaurant Week with Producer Terri Henry of Long Beach Food & Beverage

Terri Henry of Dine LBC and Terri Henry Marketing

“The city-wide inaugural Long Beach Black Restaurant Week will take place January 23-30, 2022. Long Beach Black Restaurant Week will be a platform to bring everyone to the table, from all walks of life, to showcase the city’s diverse Black food scene.”

“Organized by Long Beach Food & Beverage, a California registered 501(c)3 non-profit, along with Velika Turner, former co-owner of Derricks on Atlantic, Long Black Restaurant Week will be an eight day event devoted to celebrating African, African American, and Caribbean fare in and around Long Beach. The event also seeks to highlight Black-owned food businesses as well as Black chefs and bartenders.”

“Long Beach Black Restaurant Week is more than an eight-day event featuring dozens of restaurants and food businesses,” stated Terri Henry, co-organizer of the event and Executive Director of Long Beach Food & Beverage. “Since launching the non-profit in 2019, we’ve been committed to supporting all of Long Beach’s valued restaurants and will support Black Restaurant Week with a comprehensive advertising, marketing and PR campaign to help put ‘butts in seats’ during Long Beach Black Restaurant Week and beyond.”

“Black-owned Restaurants, Food Trucks, Caterers, Bakeries, Pop-ups, Cottage Businesses and Retail Food Businesses will be participating.”

Terri Henry, co-organizer of the event and Executive Director of Long Beach Food & Beverage joins us.

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Show 456, December 18, 2021: Trademark Brewing, Long Beach with Founder Ilana Steffen and Head Brewer Valerie Adee Part One

Trademark Brewing is the ambitious result of one couple with many passions – food, science, beer and brewing. Founded by a husband and wife team, Sterling and Ilana Steffen, who brought Trademark Brewing to Long Beach, California.”

“Trademark Brewing is the first production craft brewery in Long Beach, and one of the only sustainability-focused breweries in California. Their special equipment and processes allow Trademark to use less than half the water of other breweries their size, and 30% less energy. At Trademark Brewing, great beer isn’t enough. Their mantra is “we make it better.””

Guests can enjoy Trademark Brewing craft beers and cold brew coffee on draft in their Long Beach Taproom & Beer Garden. At any given time there is a choice of over 20 craft beers on tap. Represented styles include Hoppy, Light, Fruited + Sour, Dark, Belgian and even Beer Slushies. They also fill growlers. The Taproom is both dog and kid friendly.

One of Head Brewer, Valerie Adee’s favorite styles is Lagerdoodle. It’s a copper Lager at 5.7 % ABV. Lagerdoodle is affectionately named after “Millie” the resident craft brewery canine (and a rescue.)

Founder Ilana Steffen and Head Brewer Valerie Adee join us to tap the keg on Trademark Brewing.

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Show 456, December 18, 2021: Trademark Brewing, Long Beach with Founder Ilana Steffen and Head Brewer Valerie Adee Part Two

Trademark Brewing is the ambitious result of one couple with many passions – food, science, beer and brewing. Founded by a husband and wife team, Sterling and Ilana Steffen, who brought Trademark Brewing to Long Beach, California.”

“Trademark Brewing is the first production craft brewery in Long Beach, and one of the only sustainability-focused breweries in California. Their special equipment and processes allow Trademark to use less than half the water of other breweries their size, and 30% less energy. At Trademark Brewing, great beer isn’t enough. Their mantra is “we make it better.””

Guests can enjoy Trademark Brewing craft beers and cold brew coffee on draft in their Long Beach Taproom & Beer Garden. At any given time there is a choice of over 20 craft beers on tap. Represented styles include Hoppy, Light, Fruited + Sour, Dark, Belgian and even Beer Slushies. They also fill growlers. The Taproom is both dog and kid friendly.

Founder Ilana Steffen and Head Brewer Valerie Adee continue with us to further tap the keg on all that is Trademark Brewing.

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Show 455, December 11, 2021: Chef / Proprietor Ross Pangilinan, Terrace by Mix Mix, South Coast Plaza Part One

Ross Pangilinan of Mix Mix Kitchen Bar

TERRACE by Mix Mix at South Coast Plaza focuses on well-priced, market-driven small plates. The cuisine showcases Chef Ross Pangilinan’s (Mix Mix Kitchen Bar (Santa Ana,) ReMix Kitchen Bar (Long Beach)) eclectic style, which is influenced by French, Italian, and modern Filipino flavors, as well as his refined technique. An approachable wine list offers varietals by the glass and bottle as well as rotating craft beers.”

“True to its name, the restaurant showcases full-service dining for Lunch, Dinner and Weekend Brunch in a beautifully designed covered terrace located at the west end of the Bridge of Gardens. Features include a small wine bar, an open kitchen and a chef’s table counter offering an omakase-style tasting menu experience.”

A highlight at Terrace by Mix Mix is the three-course Express Lunch menu changing frequently. A sample entrée is Salmon Paella with sofrito, market vegetables, parmesan and gremolata.

Chef Ross Pangilinan also provides creative off-site catering.

Chef Ross takes a break from his busy Holiday kitchens and joins us.

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Show 455, December 11, 2021: Chef / Proprietor Ross Pangilinan, Terrace by Mix Mix, South Coast Plaza Part Two

Ross Pangilinan of Mix Mix Kitchen Bar

TERRACE by Mix Mix at South Coast Plaza focuses on well-priced, market-driven small plates. The cuisine showcases Chef Ross Pangilinan’s (Mix Mix Kitchen Bar (Santa Ana,) ReMix Kitchen Bar (Long Beach)) eclectic style, which is influenced by French, Italian, and modern Filipino flavors, as well as his refined technique. An approachable wine list offers varietals by the glass and bottle as well as rotating craft beers.”

“True to its name, the restaurant showcases full-service dining for Lunch, Dinner and Weekend Brunch in a beautifully designed covered terrace located at the west end of the Bridge of Gardens. Features include a small wine bar, an open kitchen and a chef’s table counter offering an omakase-style tasting menu experience.”

A highlight at Terrace by Mix Mix is the three-course Express Lunch menu changing frequently. A sample entrée is Salmon Paella with sofrito, market vegetables, parmesan and gremolata.

Chef Ross Pangilinan also provides creative, off-site catering.

“Chef Ross’ passion for cuisine started at a young age and he has since crafted it with a remarkable background of culinary experience including studying at Le Cordon Bleu, working at the two-Michelin-starred Les Trois Marche in France, the Patina Restaurant Group‘s Pinot Provence and Patina, where they earned a Michelin star in 2007, opening Sinatra within Encore at the Wynn in Las Vegas, and as executive chef of Leatherby’s Cafe Rouge at the Segerstrom Center for the Arts. Pangilinan opened Mix Mix Kitchen Bar in Downtown Santa Ana to rave reviews in 2016 and was named Restaurant of the Year by Orange Coast Magazine and Best New Restaurant by the Golden Foodie Awards.”

Chef Ross takes another break from his busy Holiday kitchens and continues.

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