Show 628, May 24, 2025: Meathead with The Meathead Method: A BBQ Hall of Famer’s Secrets and Science on BBQ, Grilling, and Outdoor Cooking

Meathead Goldwyn

“From the BBQ Hall of Famer and New York Times bestselling author of Meathead: The Science of Great Barbecue and Grilling comes The Meathead Method, a masterclass in the science and art of outdoor cooking. Meathead offers readers an informative, comprehensive, and fun guide to BBQ, grilling, and griddling, all backed by the latest culinary science.”

“With more than 110 creative and non-traditional recipes, The Meathead Method provides both indoor and outdoor cooks with tools to elevate their skills. From mastering fire, smoke, and heat to discovering the intricacies of flavors, this book is more than just a cookbook—it’s a reference manual which guides us on a journey into the heart of what makes great food.”

“Almost anything you can cook indoors can be cooked outdoors. Only better,” says Meathead. Blending science with art, The Meathead Method busts culinary myths, challenges old techniques, and introduces new methods to help home cooks create meals that inspire and impress.

“Meathead is one of only 40 living Barbecue Hall of Famers. He is the publisher of AmazingRibs.com, the largest and most popular barbecue and grilling website in the world. “The Meathead Method” is called “The only book on outdoor cookery you’ll ever need” by Alton Brown of Food Network fame. He lives in the Chicago area with his wife, a microbiologist and food safety expert.”

Meathead graciously shares two recipes from The Meathead Method: Pho with Leftover Brisket with Bone Broth and Ratatouille (Meathead’s way.)

Meathead is our guest with properly seasoned BBQ tongs in hand.

Pho With Leftover Brisket and Smoked Bone Broth

Pho with Leftover Brisket with Bone Broth by Meathead

Recipe excerpt from:
The Meathead Method
by Meathead

Pho (pronounced fuh) is a rich, complex Vietnamese broth usually loaded with meat and veggies. This one contains leftover brisket and bone broth from smoked bones. It provides an awesome payoff in an exotic sweetness.

MAKES 6 servings
TAKES About 20 minutes to prep, about 5 hours to make the broth

Smoked Bone Broth

  • 4 carrots
  • 3 medium onions
  • 4 garlic cloves
  • 4 cremini or button mushrooms
  • 2 celery stalks with leafy tops
  • 5 pounds beef femur bones split lengthwise
  • 3/4 cup dry white wine
  • 4 whole star anise pods
  • 2 teaspoons Morton Coarse Kosher Salt
  • 2 teaspoons fish sauce

Pho

  • 1 1/2 pounds leftover tender beef brisket
  • 12 ounces cremini or button mushrooms
  • 4 red radishes
  • 6 ounces medium rice stick noodles
  • 6 ounces greens, such as collards, kale, mustard, or spinach, or a blend
  • Sriracha sauce
  • OPTIONAL: Thinly sliced scallion greens and small cilantro leaves, for garnish

ABOUT THE MARROW BONES: Marrow bones are beef leg bones, or femurs. They are widely available but are often cut crosswise into 2- to 3-inch lengths. Ask your butcher for 6-inch bones cut in half lengthwise to expose far more of that flavorful marrow so it can be distributed throughout your tasty broth.
ABOUT THE MUSHROOMS: I recommend plain cremini or button mushrooms, but if you want to take it up a notch, go for chanterelles or something more exotic.
ABOUT THE NOODLES: Rice stick noodles vary in size and method of preparation, so consult the package instructions for soaking method. If you can’t find them, you can use ramen, glass noodles, vermicelli, or even soba.

  1. PREP: Peel the carrots and cut them into 3-inch chunks. Peel the onion and cut into quarters. Peel and mince or press the garlic. Rinse and cut off the bottom of the mushroom stems. Rough chop the rest of the mushrooms as well as the celery.
  2. FIRE UP: Set up your grill or smoker for smoking and aim for 225°F and get some smoke rolling.
  3. SMOKE: Smoke the bone pieces marrow- side up for an hour or two.
  4. SIMMER: Transfer the bones, veggies, wine, and star anise to a large stockpot
  5. and add 11/2 gallons of water or whatever is needed to cover everything. Bring to a boil, then immediately reduce the heat to a gentle simmer. If there is scum, scoop it off. Partly cover the pot and simmer until the liquid has reduced by about half, 4 to 5 hours.
  6. STRAIN AND SEASON: Cool the broth slightly then pour through a large sieve or colander into a bowl or another pot. Discard the solids. Let the broth settle for 5 minutes, then using a fat separator or a large flat spoon, skim off and discard most of the fat and any scum (check out the OXO fat separator that is a large measuring cup with a hole in the bottom). Stir in the salt and fish sauce and taste. You can use it now or freeze it.
  7. START THE PHO: Cut the leftover brisket into thick slices. Rinse the mushrooms clean, trim the ends, and slice thinly. Scrub and thinly slice the radishes.
  8. BRISK IT: Warm the brisket in the microwave or wrap it in foil and warm in a low oven.
  9. NOODLING: Soften the rice noodles in water, according to the package directions. Bring the broth to a simmer and add the noodles to the broth. Cook until tender.
  10. GO GREEN: Sturdier greens like collards, kale, or mustard greens will need a quick 2-minute blanch in boiling water, while more tender spinach leaves do not. Frozen greens are fine, too, but be sure to thaw completely and squeeze out the excess water.
  11. SERVE: Divide the hot noodles, brisket, greens, and mushrooms among six bowls. Ladle the hot broth over all the ingredients. Let the soup stand for 5 minutes to wilt the greens. Scatter the radishes on top and add a few squirts of Sriracha sauce. If desired, garnish with scallion greens and cilantro leaves.

From The Meathead Method by Meathead. Copyright © 2025 by AmazingRibs.com. Reprinted by permission of Harvest, an imprint of HarperCollins Publishers.

Show 334, July 27, 2019: Kynbo App for Foodies with Co-Creator Thao Doan

John Dolan and Thao Dian of the Kynbo AppFor the 2nd year the nifty KYNBO App is available as a genuinely useful tool for effortlessly navigating DINE LBC – Long Beach Restaurant Week.

Kynbo is the direct access for getting up-to-date menu info and photos for DINE LBC – Long Beach Restaurant Week participating restaurants. It’s available to download for free on either smart phone platform or via their Website.

“We are parents, high-tech professionals, and active community members with a passion for food, especially when shared with family and friends. We believe in simplicity and getting to the point as quickly as possible, and within context. Kynbo™ means “vicinity” in Japanese.”

“We built the Kynbo™ app for diners mainly for us. We want to see menus from nearby restaurants with one-click and not five. We want the ability to find exactly what we want to eat and drink way beyond Cuisine. We also want restaurants to let us know of any Specials, Events, or Rewards in real time to help us decide where to eat. Restaurants can now do this with the Kynbo™ restaurant portal.”

“Our goal is for Kynbo™ to be helpful and accessible by anyone, anywhere, and at any time. The Kynbo™ app for diners is free, and it is also free for restaurants to be on Kynbo™. We want diners to search and find whatever food or drink they crave at any price point. As food lovers, we love the hole in the wall Pho place as much as the French Laundry. Kynbo™ will forever change how diners and restaurants interact, for the better. We hope you join us in this needed disruptive change.”

“Feed Your Cravings!”

Co-Founder Thao Doan joins us with the intriguing specifics.